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POLL: Read this article and tell me .. good idea .. bad idea? Any comments on it? My first poll got closed down..wrong forum..lol. http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=34289588&ID=kcbs&scategory=Computers
Posted by livin4lovin94565 on 11-Nov-02, 01:14 PM PST
Result after a total of 13 votes

Good idea 8 votes, 61% Vote for this choice
Bad Idea No votes Vote for this choice
WHAT THE HELL are they thinking? 1 votes, 7% Vote for this choice
Bad cop...No donut 3 votes, 23% Vote for this choice
Donut officer? No votes Vote for this choice
Grow some hair on your gonads OPD and harass the murderers 1 votes, 7% Vote for this choice
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livin4lovin94565
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1. "Here is a clickable link to the article"
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   LAST EDITED ON 11-Nov-02 AT 01:18 PM (PST)
 
http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=34289588&ID=kcbs&scategory=Computers

As most of you know, I have no shame in telling OPD what I really think of them and their "Tactics" I am no stranger to fighting the PD for what is right, so enter your choice on this poll knowing that they are seeing this and its burning them ... the 1st amendment is alive and well

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2. "AND as if they needed to prove my point"
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   http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=34290688&&ID=kcbs&scategory=Computers

Yet again, OPD spins their wheels, when are they going to get it?

#97...may God be with her family and friends in their time of need.

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3. "#98 and still spinning their wheels"
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   LAST EDITED ON 13-Nov-02 AT 04:58 AM (PST)
 
http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1865%257E988075,00.html

Still think that cracking down on sideshow REALLY takes murderers off ths streets? GIMME A BREAK!!!!!! Its just another excuse for OPD to continue their schoolyard bullying.

And where the hell is Mayor Jerry Brown during all this? Hiding in his office no doubt...too afraid to go out into the city he leads because he knows the police cant protect him.

Face facts OPD..the writing is on the wall, grow some hair on those gonads.

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4. "And in other news...."
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   http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1865%257E988076,00.html

Seems like they caught this girls killers, but they didnt do it themselves..oh no. As stated in the article, one suspect surrendered himself to police and the other they needed to bring real cops with them (state parole agents) to make the arrest.

STILL THINK CRACKING DOWN ON SIDESHOWS REDUCES MURDERS? It doesn't. Its just an excuse to continue schoolyard bullying and making money for Mayor Brown by impounding cars. :: Sniff sniff :: do I smell some bad eggs somewhere?

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5. "Oh boy..now Brown speaks :\"
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   http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=34342556&ID=kcbs&scategory=Computers

What a putz...needs to call in help from the state...even HE REALISES that his police force is no good.

Hey Brown...what happened to your talking about cleaning up prostitution and making things better? What happened to you saying that cracking down on sideshow is going to improve things? YOU HAVE NO CLUE DO YOU!!??

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6. "The latest OPD escapades"
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   Ok so today I am doin my job and part of it is cruising through Oakland. The one cop who loves to sit on International and 20th was working today, he passed me and gave me a dirty look, I just flipped him the bird and kept going. Earlier in the morning they were out there harassing the homeless again..>FUCKERS!

Dont they have murderers to catch?

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7. "Well OPD strikes again"
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   They were out harassing the homeless today...can someone please tell me what this has to do with solving real crime?

Also in my travels this evening I saw someone who was cruising get popped on 20th and Int'l...2 cops there for an older guy who was obviously harmless...way to go tough guys :\ Besides, they were blocking traffic...wonder if there is a way for me to write em a parking ticket.

Meanwhile back in the mayors office ole Jerry is keeping his trap shut after sticking his foot in it the other day. The only thing the man can do is visit places and point out everyones deficiencies.

Ah well...and it goes on and on and on and on. Grow some hair on your gonads OPD....I saw open drug dealing on Int'l near 80th (thereabouts) and these fuckers were doing it openly...wanna solve your problems? Go after the gangs in that area ... you get them out, you solve your murder problems...HELLO...IS THIS THING ON???

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8. "I don't get it"
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   Do they have some magical link between sideshows and murders? Are they grasping at straws? Why do I have a feeling that many of these murders have reasons? I think there were "associations" the victims had with the perps they hid from family, maybe friends, etc. That's my gut feeling. I doubt these are random.

If you want to cut down on the murder rate, maybe do something drastic like quaratine the problem areas. Get the CA Guard to set up armed checkpoints for all ingress/egress. Start patrols with HMMVs and deploy infantry with M16's. Lock it down. Defend the area. To cut down on racial tension, I'd say we match the Guard troops to the ethnicity of the zones they're protecting.

Not very popular with civil liberties advocates, but hell, once Homeland Security is passed this will be life in the US anyway. It's what we do in other countries, so why not here? God Bless the New World Order.

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10. "RE: I don't get it"
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   You know, I was shaking my head at this post until I saw the truth in it. Personally, I wouldnt want to go through an armed checkpoint in and out of a neighberhood. Even though this post is an extreme measure, I am sure someone can come up with a toned down version of it (dont rely on me, I enter the debate biased)

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9. "#100"
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   Well its pseudo official folks .. http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1865%257E995369,00.html ....#100, even though the police do not want to come right out and say it. All this and they put 40 more officers on the streets (Explains the harassment of the homeless, and harmless folks)

Nothing they do gets them anywhere because they have a few problems:

1. The public in Oakland has NO RESPECT for them .. seems they have a rep for harassing folks who aren't the ones committing the crimes.

2. They harass harmless folks (the homeless and SW's and Johns) Seems to me if you get rid of one problem, the others will follow, or was I just dreaming that is what happened in SF?

3. Their officers are more intent on staying in their cars instead of getting out and looking around.

Ok, so Brown is making SOME progress...he is upping the rent in Oakland and property values are on the rise. What he didnt bargain for is that when you make it impossible for people to live and work in the same community, folks get desperate.. 1+1=2 Brown..listen up.

As for OPD...well they are who they are...school yard bullies with a hidden agenda.

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11. "Someone want to tell me how cutting down on sideshows ."
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   Prevents this http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/4525753.htm

Can anyone PLEASE explain to me how cracking down on sideshows (With the city spending VALUABLE resources on a simple problem) prevents murders? Can someone explain why the city spends valuable time and resources to combat SW's and Johns when the REAL problems are far removed from these neighberhoods where the sideshows and SW happens?

Dont get me wrong...I think sideshows are a dangerous thing that all too easily get out of hand. But when the city is spending MILLIONS to combat this problem, and ignores where the REAL problems are, then something needs to be said .. and done about it. Rather than being in a proactive mode to SW's and Sideshows ... and reactive to murders .. maybe they need to switch it around and become PRO-Active on murders and RE-active on Sideshow and SW's.

Does anyone remember the heydays of cruising? I mean really..remember when San Mateo was the hotspot to go out and be seen? Remember that the cops never hassled folks until it started to get out of hand, then they became reactive to it. 1 ... maybe 2 cops was on hand during the evening just patrolling the general area...that in my opinion, is a good use of resources.

Does anyone agree with me or am I just yelling into an abyss?

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12. "What PISSES me off is that the Sideshow guys ..."
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   ... GET THEIR CARS BACK AFTER 30 DAYS, BUT THEY KEEP OURS!!!!!


There has been at least one fatality that I've heard of due to sideshows in Oakland. I'm not aware of any fatalities caused by johns lookin' for love.

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14. "RE: What PISSES me off is that the Sideshow guys ..."
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   You know, that is a good point. Why is it the sideshow freaks can kill people and yet they get a lighter slap than we do. Splain that one moonbeam Brown


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13. "#100 is official"
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   Even though the police wont come out and say it, lets face it, they are afraid of the negative image.

AND EVEN THOUGH OPD had 40 extra officers out, they still managed to not prevent a shotting that could have easily turned to #101. http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=34434131&ID=kcbs&scategory=Computers

Its one thing to have the officers out there, its another to make sure that they are doing their jobs and cruising the neighberhoods...instead of being up on International harassing the homeless and SW's. Lets face it..OPD is afraid to do real police work because the community has no respect for them, therefor making them a target when they go into these neighberhoods.

Numbers..facts..figures..opinions, they all DO NOT LIE! OPD has to re-train their officers to be Police Officers instead of schoolyard bullies..maybe then they can do something about this problem.

In the meanwhile ole Moonbeam Brown seems to deem it necessary to call out for help from the CHP and S.O. to help their officers learn what it is like to be real men. What does this translate to for us? CHP AND the S.O. doing the REAL police work in the neighberhoods which leaves OPD to continue their schoolyard bullying. Way to go Moonbeam.

And what is MORE incredulous is there is a majority of votes on this poll that indicates spending valuable resources on sideshow is more important. Can someone who voted in favor of it being a good idea PLEASE tell me WHY!!??

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15. "It warms my heart to report this"
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   I have actually seen LE presence in the neighberhoods lately. They arent getting out and chasing the drug dealers off ... but at least they are making their presence known. Now if they can just concentrate on 82nd St.....81st Street and 36th street they may just make some progress in getting the low life drug dealers off the streets.

Its pretty sad when I drive up a street and get accosted at 3 different corners in 3 blocks with folks wanting to sell me drugs. And there is nothing I can do about it, my job requires me to go into the neighberhoods.

Meanwhile, seems there hasnt been a homicide for at least a few days. Thank God for that, especially since I listened with great emotion to the wife of #98 explain her situation at wild 94.9 .. http://www.wild949.com Seems her husband had went to Mickey D's to get a happy meal for his son, and he never returned. How is that kid going to live with the guilt of that? Its not his fault, but because OPD spins their wheels in the wrong direction, he has to live with it.

Lets hope OPD gets their act together and harass the folks that need harassing instead of the homeless and SW's and Johns. Priorities OPD .. priorities.

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16. "A success for OPD..Finally"
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   I am surprised they actually chased this guy... http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1726%257E1002674,00.html McClymonds is a tough high school, not some place you want to be alone and white. But it seems to me that OPD is using another copout ... the lack of witnesses ... yeah right.

Meanwhile OPD is back to their old tricks of sitting there and waiting to make away with someones car....I seen you hiding officer...you aint fooling noone in that unmarked car...Next time hide your badge better.

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17. "AND to beat a dead horse........."
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   http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1726%257E1002479,00.html Why is it they want more witnesses? They have all the facts on hand with the witnesses available. I saw this scene this morning...there were plenty of people talking to plenty of cops. Just another excuse for OPD to not do their jobs and blame someone else but themselves.

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