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some_economics_101*
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06-Nov-02, 05:21 PM (PST)
 
"Pricing"
 
   Recently I have noticed unrealistic pricing for services.
Pricing for services need to be adjusted to more realistic levels.

Suggested pricing for the bay area:

Incall:
Rate $40/hour
Extras:
HJ $20
BJ $30
FS $70

Outcall:
Rate $100/hour
HJ $20
BJ $30
FS $70


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micro_mike
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06-Nov-02, 05:31 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: Pricing"
In response to message #0
 
   suggest the following:

top tier: ERB / FK level

FS/hr = 150

2nd tier:

FS/hr = 100

Ladies would have no issues filling up their calendars with these rates.

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FreeWillyDave
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9. "I don't know..."
In response to message #1
 
   what you exactly mean by micro_mike and what the 'micro' means, but I know that at the very least it is an apt word to describe your budget.

Lisa ERB, now retired, filled her calendar plenty at her then-very-reasonable rate of $200/hr. Why should she EVER want to see you for $150?

e h c * -- *sigh*

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Looking4thebest
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06-Nov-02, 09:13 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: If the price is to high, find someone else"
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   LAST EDITED ON 06-Nov-02 AT 09:40 PM (PST)
 
>Recently I have noticed unrealistic pricing for services.
>Pricing for services need to be adjusted to more realistic
>levels.
>
>Suggested pricing for the bay area:
>
>Incall:
>Rate $40/hour
>Extras:
>HJ $20
>BJ $30
>FS $70
>
>Outcall:
>Rate $100/hour
>HJ $20
>BJ $30
>FS $70

It should be one price for the whole tamale. How are the current prices unrealistic and for who?????? I spend almost 1200 every week for a few hours with my favorite gal. Add more $ for maybe 2 others who have reduced rates. Next thing we'll see is:

Telephone calls: $2.00 per minute (rounded to the nearest minute)
Use of towel: $1.00
Beverage: $3.00 (Call brands extra)
Special Clothing Request: Varies call for current prices
Condoms: $2.00 (ask about 50 cent discount for multi hour sessions)
Sucking on Nipple: $8.00 (both for $10.00 before 10:00a.m. only)
Insurance: $10.00 (not mandatory) in case you stain my clothing

As always, if your not happy with the price, call someone else.

- L4B -

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some_economics_101*
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07-Nov-02, 04:08 AM (PST)
 
3. "RE: If the price is to high, find someone else"
In response to message #2
 
   You spend $1200 a week on a prostitute?
Ever considered therapy?

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07-Nov-02, 04:41 AM (PST)
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4. "RE: If the price is to high, find someone else"
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   L4B

Are you just bragging ??
Or do you really drop 60K$/yr in this hobby ?

Match.com will save you a bundle if you work it.

Sounds like the recession has not affected you.
More power to ya, fella !!

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Looking4thebest
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07-Nov-02, 06:49 AM (PST)
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5. "RE: If the price is to high, find someone else"
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   Not in a year, but in the last 5 months or so, that has been what I've spent. I don't know where the "bragging" bit comes in as that's simply what I spend. I do actually date, and when I do, I don't see Escorts. Just haven't had time right now and in some cases don't want to deal with the hassles of a relationship. The recession hasn't touched me a bit in my Profession and Short Sales on stocks for almost 2 solid years has been very profitable....I guess some might construe that as bragging also, but that's just my own situation. I busted my ass and took risks when I was younger to get where I am today and now I'm just enjoying it before I get too old not to have fun.

- L4B -

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agotee
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07-Nov-02, 08:17 AM (PST)
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6. "RE: If the price is to high, find someone else"
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   >I busted my ass and took risks when I was younger
>to get where I am today and now I'm just enjoying it before
>I get too old not to have fun.

Amen. People don't seem to understand someone's history and how they got to where they are in their lives. They think it's all magical.

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FreeWillyDave
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07-Nov-02, 08:45 AM (PST)
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7. "more power to you guys!"
In response to message #6
 
   >>I busted my ass and took risks when I was younger
>>to get where I am today and now I'm just enjoying it before
>>I get too old not to have fun.
>
>Amen. People don't seem to understand someone's history and
>how they got to where they are in their lives. They think
>it's all magical.

Hey, more power to you guys! I'll be honest in saying that for some of us, a lot of it was luck. And even though I can't spend $1200 a week on girls, I don't begrudge you the fact that you can. If I had so much money-- and time!-- that $1200 a week were a drop in the bucket to me (and I'm sure that there are some guys on this board who do have that kind of money), I'd surely do it. Maybe it's good that I don't.

e h c * -- *sigh*

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FreeWillyDave
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8. "oh brother..."
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   >Recently I have noticed unrealistic pricing for services.

I have too. Right here, in fact.

You can find these prices if you look for some of the more run-down streetwalkers in Oakland. Oh wait-- don't tell me! You expect a clean, respectful, beautiful, young five-star GFE on top of it, right?

Even the cheapest, most rascally of all skinflints on this board will admit that this kind of pricing will never happen... unless we have another major depression, and the price of a loaf of bread drops to 5 cents.

Tell you what-- just because of this post, I think I want to spring for a hot, higher end provider... and I'll tip her fat on top of it. Something about your cheapness makes me really horny.

Love,

FWD

>Pricing for services need to be adjusted to more realistic
>levels.
>
>Suggested pricing for the bay area:
>
>Incall:
>Rate $40/hour
>Extras:
>HJ $20
>BJ $30
>FS $70
>
>Outcall:
>Rate $100/hour
>HJ $20
>BJ $30
>FS $70

e h c * -- *sigh*

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ah_hah_ah
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07-Nov-02, 08:58 AM (PST)
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10. "RE: oh brother..."
In response to message #8
 
The current recesion will be over when AMP and escort prices bottom. They have not even started to come down let alone bottom.
So first they will have to come down, then when they bottom the recession (or perhaps depression) will be over.

More ladies will be inclined to offer services in the comming months due to the recession (and perhaps depression).
This will be a good trend for pricing (economy 101, more supply, lower prices).

Expect to see the first $40/hour AMP in a few months.

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juiceman
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08-Nov-02, 03:03 AM (PST)
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22. "RE: oh brother..."
In response to message #10
 
   Doesn't matter what the price is, it's all relative.

If AMPs go to $40/hr, it means that movies are $3 and Java programmers are $20/hr. Actually, I think that has already happened with regard to the Java programmers.

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cutiepieltt
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07-Nov-02, 12:29 PM (PST)
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11. "40$"
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You would have to do like 4 guys just to cover the room so thats not fare plus i would have to get a real job or do it every day

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jollyrancher
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07-Nov-02, 01:43 PM (PST)
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12. "I do love this board"
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   Here we have a thread with posts from one of the cheapest guys to come along, then one of the most generous, and it's all summed up beautifully by the one we call illiterate.

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FreeWillyDave
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07-Nov-02, 11:42 PM (PST)
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19. "I don't deserve the honor...."
In response to message #12
 
   >Here we have a thread with posts from one of the cheapest
>guys to come along, then one of the most generous,

... I probably don't deserve the honor of being thought of as one of the most generous or well-heeled RBers, I'm sure. In fact, I'd bet I'm much closer to average in terms of what I am willing to spend per hour.

Hey, there are some recent threads about being a sugar daddy (by Zero) for two grand a month for *one* girl. And that was for only five sessions a month in some cases.

FWD


and it's
>all summed up beautifully by the one we call illiterate.

e h c * -- *sigh*

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WB
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07-Nov-02, 04:14 PM (PST)
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13. "RE: 40$"
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   oh yah!

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FreeWillyDave
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14. "Oh yeah, BABY!"
In response to message #13
 
   I'm sure that the first $40 AMP session-- and it certainly won't be me-- will be one in which, after haggling with the poor girl for thirty minutes, you get a rushed, unenthusiastic ten-minute "wham-bam-thank-you-cheapskate" session with the UGLIEST GIRL in the place.

We all know this to be true. Like the earth revolves around the sun, this too shall come to pass.

e h c * -- *sigh*

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16. "RE: 40$ - Yes I agree"
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   If I can offer some insight cutie, do yourself a favor and don't get a real job even if it means getting those free bags of food they give out at the Salvation Army.

Speaking from experience, it's rough. I get up at 3:30a.m. 5 days a week...Maybe get 4 hours of sleep if I'm lucky. I do hope you get to sleep to at least noon. The stress is sometimes overwhelming and tranquilizers no longer work.

The downside is that with all the work all you end up with is buckets of cash and problems remembering which banks and brokerage houses have your money. Then you've got constant phone calls from Casino Hosts inviting to fly you up to Vegas....These guys are pesky and also flood your email if they can't get you on the phone....

Sorry I'm getting a headache thinking of all the problems that come with working hard and almost every day just for money you can't spend fast enough. (JK) (maybe)

- L4B -

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08-Nov-02, 00:48 AM (PST)
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20. "RE: 40$ - Yes I agree"
In response to message #16
 
   LAST EDITED ON 08-Nov-02 AT 00:52 AM (PST)
 
L4B, maybe you make what you say and maybe you don't only you
know for sure, but most people feel no need to expound on their
fortune or misfortune unless they're just a bit insecure - shoe fit?

A few observations - most people in your described position
- keep multiple cell phones to filter access
- keep multiple email addresses to filter access
- actually have quite an easy time managing the location of their
funds as both banks and brokerages offer concierge services
at the platinum and beyond level.

Keep trying, it's amusing

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Looking4thebest
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23. "RE: the point was"
In response to message #20
 
   LAST EDITED ON 08-Nov-02 AT 06:48 AM (PST)
 
I was mainly havin' some fun with her comment about what came across as the "horrors" of having a real job and the potential problems that one can incur when they struggle, and work incredibly hard all their life to reap some benefits that one can enjoy a bit later in life.

I do thank you for the mention of concierge services, I am quite familar with them....I didn't mean to come across as some egotistical nut, in fact, I even am known to do my own laundry and wash my cars by myself!

- L4B -

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charlotte_sometimes
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07-Nov-02, 05:47 PM (PST)
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15. "rascally rabbit"
In response to message #0
 
if we're getting clients, how are the prices unrealistic?

some guys look at providers as a luxury item, i've talked to people who won't even consider someone under $250, much like they won't wear designer knock-offs or drink second rate scotch.

and for those who don't, a quick perusal of classifieds shows that there are ladies within your quoted amounts ... although they aren't quite as itemized about it.

frankly, if you approached me with that kind of negotiation talk, i'd think LE and show you the door. as of this writing, forty bucks isn't worth getting arrested.

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ah_hah_ah
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07-Nov-02, 06:00 PM (PST)
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17. "RE: rascally rabbit"
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Some guys are suckers and pay anything the lady asks for.

Why do you say "providers"? Do you perhaps have an issue with the word prostitute?

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charlotte_sometimes
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07-Nov-02, 07:54 PM (PST)
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18. "RE: rascally rabbit"
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LAST EDITED ON 07-Nov-02 AT 07:57 PM (PST)
 
i have no issue with the word prostitute, escort, companion, hooker or sex worker. nor even the word whore. i'm one of those annoying empowered and outspoken prostitutes. i'm also fond of the more archaic terms trollop, harlot, tart and wench.

i use the terms "provider" and "hobbyist" because they are redbook's chosen euphamisms and i find them quaint.

i do have an issue with someone thinking my time in this capacity is worth forty bucks. i can make that typing and i don't risk arrest.

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21. "RE: rascally rabbit"
In response to message #18
 
   You go girl!

Charlotte you're worth bit of your donation and then some

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noelw
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08-Nov-02, 10:23 AM (PST)
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24. "Dude, get realistic"
In response to message #0
 
AMP prices represent the rock bottom for value. In the SB, the rates are $40 for 1/2 hr., $60 for 1 hr., just as a starter. It then goes: HJ - $40, topless HJ - $60, BJ - $80, FS - $100 - - these tips are just for the half hour! For the hour, add at least $20 per tip.

Now, this is for AMPs, where service can be unreliable and translation is a problem. AMP girls work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, and see 8-10 clients a day, and are still poor. For independent escorts and masseuses, the cost must include overhead (room rent, etc.), it must account for limited traffic (higher quality service means they cannot see as many people) and it should take into consideration the fact that these women have earned their reputations over time.

The rates you quoted would be starvation wages for most girls. However, it is still possible for you to see a well-liked independent for a low price: Harlene. As she often says about herself, she must be crazy to price herself so low.

- Mr. Christmas

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ah_hah_ah
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25. "RE: Dude, get realistic"
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LAST EDITED ON 08-Nov-02 AT 10:48 AM (PST)
 
Dude, learn to calculate:

Assuming the girls get $20/hour (yes they get a room fee kickback for the suckers who did no know) for the room plus an average tip of $50/hour that makes $70. Multiply that by 6 customers a day and you get $420 a day. Multiply that by 6 makes $2520 a week. Multiply that by four and that makes $10,080 a month. Multiply that by 12 and you get $120,960

Starvation wages? What planet are you from?


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