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Doktor*
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24-Oct-02, 11:53 PM (PST)
 
"Addictions"
 
   END YOUR ADDICTIONS is an interesting book available from most online bookstores. The basic theory is there is a biochemical basis for drug addictions, and the book offers various over the counter protocols for self help. The basic addictions for heroin, speed and coke are discussed with their respective treatments.

The SW forum cried about addictions, the high cost of modern medicine, and lack of general education on the matter. Well, I don't contend this book will cure all et ails you, but it is a start for self help. Furthermore, crying about the high cost of Prozac when 5HTP is available from most health food stores for $ 40.00 / month is simply ignorance. The aforementioned hard drugs are discussed and remedies provided. Those interested should either get a copy from your local library, or online.

I am not advocating drug use but harm reduction. If you know more things, you can try more experiences to improve yourself.

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xxxdancerevette
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26-Oct-02, 07:25 AM (PST)
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   But if you are really enthusiastic about putting your money towards something more long term, and keep the $19,95 for the book the original topic recommends, try your luck with something that the book would probably recommend for some of you anyway.......Should you ever really want to try to look better or do something about any confidence issues you don't think you can do on your own, or your really jealous of people that have plastic surgery, it is an obvious sign you have hangups about your own inequties, and you should really try to give the plastic surgery addiction a real try.........


It is a good way to help you feel great, and we all know at the root of some addiction problems are confidence issues.....Anyway consider your alternatives or just keep on weighing out the should I shouldn't I decisions, and procrastinate and let those who know what thier doing with life go for it and be content to know that at one point a long time ago at least it didn't seem to bad to at least try to encourage others to do the same things you did.

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MzAlyssa
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29-Oct-02, 08:41 AM (PST)
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2. "RE: Addictions"
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LAST EDITED ON 29-Oct-02 AT 08:43 AM (PST)
 
An interesting-sounding book and I'd like to see it. However, one must keep in mind the different internal chemistry of each individual. Not all over-the-counter products will have the same effect, especially if they are on meds for something else (low iron, diabetes, etc).
Being an addict sucks. Plain and simple. It's painful. Sometimes it's hard to make others understand. The best way to work out a harm reduction plan for yourself or an abstinence plan, whichever one you feel is better for you, is to get to know YOURSELF. If you find the reasons behind your lack of confidence issues (aka the WHY it matters what others think and how YOU fit into the equation and whatever else) or other issues people can have leading to addictions which are far too numerous to list here, you can get over some of the shit. Putting a band-aid over it doesn't help too much.

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SweetCaroline
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29-Oct-02, 04:10 PM (PST)
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4. "RE: Addictions"
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I agree 100% with what you said, MzAlyssa, in your first paragraph. Although I have 16 years of clean, drug-free living, with the help of a non-profit organization, I can't say I'm an expert or that I have "arrived". However, I have picked up enough tools for living without using.
And here I quote from "Addictive Drinking: the Road to Recovery For Problem Drinkers & Those Who Love Them" by Clark Vaughan: (I have substituted drug terms for the alcohol terms used in the book, because as far as I'm concerned, a drug is a drug, & addiction is addiction, to anything.) "As we have seen, (drugs) is not the real problem, only a symptom. Behind the addictive (using), superbly concealed much of the time, lies the ocean of abnormal stress---Physical, mental & emotional, rising & falling as surely as the mighty tide in the Bay of Fundy. Looking deeper still, we saw that this sea of abnormal stress was the direct result of fears that were constantly building & compounding. These fears drive us closer & closer to the brink of insanity, & more & more often to the only source of relief we know from the exquisite torture & terror--- booze, drugs, or other aberrant behaviors. These fears arise in large part from the steadily growing, desperate sense of defeat, frustration, & final, total impasse in our long, exhausting battle to find some real satisfaction in our lives, some true sense of fulfillment, some degree of valid purpose & worth. But even after digging down to this level, we are still faced with one more unanswered question: What is it that drives us so: What is it that I am searching for to fulfill ME?"

"We have learned, mostly from Alfred Adler, that what man needs most is to feel secure in his self-esteem."

"Each person needs to justify himself as an object of primary value, to be a hero in some way, to make the biggest possible contribution he can, to show that he COUNTS."

Cleaning up my act, one day at a time
Sweet Caroline ~:~) XXOO
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Doktor*
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30-Oct-02, 00:10 AM (PST)
 
5. "RE: Addictions"
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   The initial post was addressing a limited problem posed. Simply what to do when someone is addicted to hard drugs and cannot afford detox treatment.

If anyone is interested, get the book to see if it contains any useful information. The detox supplements are suppose to work on the early or coming off portion of the drug addiction. The nutritional supplements supposely fix the physical imbalances an addict has in his/her metabolism. The psychological components are NOT addressed. Finally, the overall program is short, lasting only 2-3 weeks and treats smoking, heroin, speed, coke, and alcohol.

I cannot honestly evaluate the efficacy nor authenticity of the books claims. I can relay that I now take tyrosine supplements as a pick me up, seems to correct for mild depression. Also, the HTP really does improve sleep quality for me. IMHO, these 2 claims work.

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CTrash
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29-Oct-02, 03:16 PM (PST)
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3. "RE: Addictions"
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   what about my whore luvin' addiction?

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