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alienfap (7 posts) Click to EMail alienfap Click to send private message to alienfap Click to check IP address of the poster
06-May-01, 08:04 PM (PDT)
"For Nicole and whoever else is intersted..."
I'm ok now, but I had a VERY BAD reaction to clomid today. I don't know what to tell you regarding your use of it, but I would be very careful.
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DarkKitty (707 posts) Click to send private message to DarkKitty Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
06-May-01, 08:05 PM (PDT)
1. "RE: For Nicole and whoever else is intersted..."
What is "clomid"?

Peace.....

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Dazed (13 posts) Click to send private message to Dazed Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
06-May-01, 08:20 PM (PDT)
2. "RE: For Nicole and whoever else is intersted..."
What was the side effect?
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TheGreek (383 posts) Click to send private message to TheGreek Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
06-May-01, 08:26 PM (PDT)
3. "The relevent link..."
See Nicole's post. It pays to be careful with meds, there are such things as drug interactions and contra-indications. That being said, thank-you Nicole for being informative and contributory.

http://www.sf-redbook.com/cgi-bin/dcforum2/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=8617&forum=general&archive=yes

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DarkKitty (707 posts) Click to send private message to DarkKitty Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
07-May-01, 07:27 AM (PDT)
4. "RE: The relevent link..."
Thanks for the link!

Peace.....

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Nicole_Farallon (206 posts) Click to send private message to Nicole_Farallon Click to check IP address of the poster
07-May-01, 09:49 AM (PDT)
5. "RE: The relevent link..."
I am curious what happened! Somebody close to me has been using it for months and is fine. He got it off that Indian website. Is that where you got yours? I hope that you are okay!!!
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alienfap (7 posts) Click to EMail alienfap Click to send private message to alienfap Click to check IP address of the poster
07-May-01, 10:44 AM (PDT)
6. "RE: The relevent link..."
I am fine. I also got it off of that same Indian website. (good service, btw) It is possible that I experienced some kind of drug interaction. The clomid seemed to be the new factor. It worked as advertised Nicole. You're sure right about that. But after the event, first few minutes - not pleasurable; I was thinking "this is strange." Then pain and burning in the plumbing, quite intense. Very slight nausea. Cold sweats. Kinda dizzy. These effects were strong for about an hour and a half, then they subsided. During the hour and a half I was scared. Three or four hours after the onset I was pretty much fine.

I took the clomid on an empty stomach. Maybe that did it. I would take with a meal and with plenty of fluids if I had it to do over.

I want to emphazize that I knew there was a risk. I was completely conscious of a risk when I took the clomid. Mea culpa. I posted this solely to give others a heads up.

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human_genome (900 posts) Click to send private message to human_genome Click to check IP address of the poster
08-May-01, 09:43 AM (PDT)
7. "RE: Risks of clomid"
Sorry for the long post but I feel this is important, somehow I missed Nicole's prior post. Clomid (clomiphene) is a synthetic drug with estrogen and anti-estrogenic properties. It acts by stimulating FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (leutinizing hormone) from the pituitary gland in the brain. These stimulate ovulation and the probably sperm production. It has been used to treat oligospermia (low sperm counts)but I don't believe this is standard therapy.

The drug metablism of the compound would suggest potential interactions with other drugs causing higher blood concentrations of the other drug and potential side effects. For example if you were on some high blood pressure meds you could get a real low blood pressure and dizzy. Not so much is known here because the drug is used to induce egg release in young women.

The worry of recommending this for sexual pleasure are the potential for:
1. Ovary cysy formation in women- these can burst and bleed and you could quickly die.
2. It can cause birth defects- when used for pregnancy the mothers are quickly removed from the drug, but if using it recreationally, you might not know for a month or two.
3. It could stimulate breast cancer, uterine, and ovarian cancer if they are present. Inc risk of ovarian cancer.
4. In men estrogens are notorius for stimulating blood clots- who wants a stroke, heart attack, a pulmonary embolus (clot in the lung which is high probability of death).
6. The FSH/testosterone production can cause prostate enlargemnet and blocked uring flow and stimulate prostate cancer (the #1-2 cancer in men).
6. There are alot of other side-effcts as well, dizziness, hot flashes, visual disturbance (retinal damage).

I will stop here. I really think this is a bad thing.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/clomiphenesystemic202151.html

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Nicole_Farallon (206 posts) Click to send private message to Nicole_Farallon Click to check IP address of the poster
08-May-01, 10:01 AM (PDT)
8. "RE: Risks of clomid"
I would never reccomend Clomid for women for upping libido, or enhancing sexual pleasure. I know a few men who take clomid, and have had no problems. But, they are in their mid-thirties and very healthy. Both are taking it to counteract testical atrophy due to steroid use. My one friend that takes it has a pituitary disorder in which his body stopped producing testosterone, so he is legally presribed the steriods. He also takes thyroid medication. I don't know about interactions with other drugs. I think that if you are on blood pressure medication, then just about anything can cause a bad drug interaction, as well as MAO inhibiters. But, I am no doctor, and so please do your own research before taking anything!!! But I also know that doctors do not know everything about drugs!! Especially alternative drugs like steroids. ( and thyroid medication)
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Nicole_Farallon (206 posts) Click to send private message to Nicole_Farallon Click to check IP address of the poster
08-May-01, 10:07 AM (PDT)
9. "RE: Risks of clomid"
I just read your link, and it is listed as a treatment for low sperm count in men. It also lists the risks, which sound really standard in drugs these days. It doesn't sound really great for women, but for men, it seemed that the risks were minimal. You just have to be aware when you take drugs to watch out for the side effects.
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