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markinpaloalto (5 posts) Click to EMail markinpaloalto Click to send private message to markinpaloalto Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 10:58 AM (PDT)
"Guidelines for reviews ?"
I am new to the redbook and actually enjoy reading the reviews inside because this whole part of life is fairly new to me.

Its actually interesting reading material just by itself (especially the Street Walker section which is quite funny at times). And it certainly gives one a better feel for what really goes on out there.

But in reading the reviews I have also noticed something. A review of the same provider can vary widely because of the bias/ subjectivity of the author. One provider can get a 9 from one author and a 3 from another (I agree with the 3 for the provider I am thinking of). Its an interesting pheonmena, especially for those lesser-known providers who are "on the fringe" as it were.

So in thinking about it and I just wondered if the guys who run the redbook (or the members) should try to put some provide some of standard guidelines out there.

Like if you pay $XXX for an escort should get x,y,z...

This isn't a huge complaint against the Redbook, I have certainly gotten alot of information out of it. I was just thinking about a way to improve the rating system.

Thanks
markinpaloalto

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jitrudi (28 posts) Click to send private message to jitrudi Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 11:28 AM (PDT)
1. "problem is"
beteen the YMMV and the differnces in who we all are and our little picadillos -one mans perfect ten is another mans fat ass ugly old dead fish and everything in between. I have used a yard stick of looking at the reviews of women I have been with and who has reviewed them and then see what they say about people I am considering that gives me my grain of salt.

standards in reviews? cant be done..not in a public forum

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FreeWillyDave (336 posts) Click to send private message to FreeWillyDave Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 11:36 AM (PDT)
2. "RE: problem is"
Well put, jitrudi. Actually, I've been pretty pleased overall with the accuracy of the reviews. After having experienced some of these girls firsthand and looking back, certain specifics really confirm that the reviewer had actually seen the girl, as they couldn't have been made up.

I *always* look at others' reviews as a YMMV kinda thing. How a girl looks to you and how she reacts to you is a subjective thing both on your part and her part. Trying to report such a thing and guarantee that the next guy will get the same kinda treatment is simply impossible.

Personally, I've found that I am probably pickier than most in the looks department, and tend to be more conservative in my rankings. Any girl that gets a 9 or 10 from me has to be HOT. Others, (and RB staff as well, I believe) tend to put more of a premium on attitude and service. While these are important for me too of course, as long as they are decent and acceptable, looks are MORE important to me.

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jimboy (210 posts) Click to send private message to jimboy Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 12:13 PM (PDT)
3. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
After you read enough reviews you can usually get a sense as to whether it's bogus or "too good to be true." I try to look for commonalities in the reviews. For example, if three hobbyists review the same provider and all say she kisses, allows DATY (or whatever), then it's a good bet that that service is available, no matter how they subjectively rate her looks/svc.
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Strong (802 posts) Click to send private message to Strong Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 12:49 PM (PDT)
4. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
I mainly look for the girl's attitude in the reviews as well as the service. Looks are important and I only see girls that are on the petite or slender side. If I see someone I already want to know what their no's are. By trying to kiss someone or daty and she says no, that just kills the mood.
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FreeWillyDave (336 posts) Click to send private message to FreeWillyDave Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 01:29 PM (PDT)
6. "good to establish guidelines first.."
Strong,

Yes, I would imagine it would be good to get all the rules out in the open (and even this can be awkward, especially if you're starting out on a GFE basis), and not find out along the way.

But it's been my understanding that most providers do not kiss as a rule, and that DATY without a dam is considered unprotected sex and thus also usually out. So I haven't even attempted either of these. I am finding out, however, that these things are on the menu more often than I previously thought.

In my past experience, the few times I got frenching and BBBJ, it just sorta happened. Hard to turn it down if they just start doing it, eh?

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LanceP (74 posts) Click to EMail LanceP Click to send private message to LanceP Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 01:25 PM (PDT)
5. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
LAST EDITED ON 16-Apr-01 AT 01:27 PM (PDT)

IMO, all reviews are purely subjective. If I am very interested i meeting a lady, I do research and yes, I do read any reviews I can on her. In my experience, reviews are only a very small part of why I choose to meet a lady. They do provide some sort of "general" overview that helps me decide whether or not we would be a "fit".

I rate personality/ attitude/service very highly. My preferences vary, and I like a wide variety of ladies (with intelligence and a unique attractiveness)...not necessarily drop dead gorgeous...just a nice , sweet, sensual, smart lady.

So, when you read any reviews, take it with a grain of salt...

Lance

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march26 (38 posts) Click to send private message to march26 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 02:11 PM (PDT)
7. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
The biggest variance in the reviews, I've found, is the looks dept. Some providers who were rated a 9 or 10, definitely shouldn't have!

i guess, each person has thier own rating scale, and perhaps mine is a bit strichter. Doubt if there's any way to help standardize this. Perhaps there could though (since looks is less YMMV, than service & attitude).

I've usually rated looks based on a 10 being runway supermodel quality, and 5 being your average, not so special, looks. Therefore, most providers I've seen would fall into 6 or 7s, with a rare 8. Now, these kind of ratings would be low by current redbook standards!!

Another way of rating that I've thought of, is the rate it on a relative scale. Meaning, there are hardly any supermodel women out there, so let's rate w/in all the providers I've seen. So, I would give a 9 or 10 to a provider I think is the best looking provider I've ever encountered. Only problem is, what if i do run into a supermodel provider, then it would screw up all my previous ratings!

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sson_of_sam (200 posts) Click to EMail sson_of_sam Click to send private message to sson_of_sam Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 06:17 PM (PDT)
8. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
Granted, there will always be shills, guys with totally inadequate sampling, and just an honest difference in preference. However the main review site in Los Angeles has managed to be much more reliable than Redbook with regard to looks and specific servises offered. Not that Redbook isn't a blessing, but the reviews can be somewhat standardized, and thus more usefull, than they are now.
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jimboy (210 posts) Click to send private message to jimboy Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 10:10 PM (PDT)
10. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
On that other review site - I like how they link descriptors (hot time, just lays there, etc.) to the rating numbers. I think that adds to the reliability because it give some guidance to the reviewer. It's a lot better than leaving it to the hobbyist to pick a number out of the air.
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sson_of_sam (200 posts) Click to EMail sson_of_sam Click to send private message to sson_of_sam Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 10:50 PM (PDT)
11. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
Agreed. I also like the check off boxes for the various services offered and the search feature that will filter by any factor that you choose. While there is still room for personal preference, you don't get Valerie of the East Bay rated a 12 face, 12 body, Krissy Kox a 10 and 10, and, if I read the latest reviews right, some guy gave Kate of Oakland a 9 face. These guys do nothing but do a disservice to other guys who try to utilize the reviews.
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sojo (403 posts) Click to send private message to sojo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 10:02 PM (PDT)
9. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
Looking at the vast majority of providers advertising I would have to say that I seriously question whether they are even in the top half of all women in the looks department. Many of them look like 4's or 5's to me. Now they may have great attitudes and to paraphrase Willie Nelson "be able to suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch" but from a looks standpoint, forget it.
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sson_of_sam (200 posts) Click to EMail sson_of_sam Click to send private message to sson_of_sam Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 10:53 PM (PDT)
12. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
I totally agree with you. You know the weird thing? It seems that guys will raise or lower their rating for looks to correlate with the service they receive. If that isn't the damndest thing...
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sojo (403 posts) Click to send private message to sojo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
17-Apr-01, 12:53 PM (PDT)
17. "RE: Guidelines for reviews ?"
Too many guys do their review in the afterglow of the meeting and do not wait until enough time has passed to accurately evaluate the session. Personally I think they are hurting the providers with the overly high physical rankings. If someone rates a provider as a 9 or a 10 in the looks department I expect her to look like a movie star. Whne I see her and she looks like a very pretty girl (or worse) I am disappointed and the reality is, it isn't her fault.

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TheGreek (232 posts) Click to send private message to TheGreek Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
16-Apr-01, 11:14 PM (PDT)
13. "Are you hot or not?..."
Have you seen that site? It's a dumb site (at least I can claim I didn't get very tied up into it). But what's interesting is how everybody new who had a go at it started out by being all over the map in terms of ratings, and ended up (after about 10 or 15 ratings) getting extremely close to the average score.

There's a lot of variance regarding how men rate their providers' looks, and only generalizations about these factors can be made. For example, if you are older, age plays less of a factor in looks. Or if you like the woman you've spent time with, and she has charisma, etc, it's natural that she acquire a higher rating. Finally, different men (or women for that matter) have different tastes. The point is, it's one thing to base somebody's looks based only on a photograph (such as the "hot or not" site), but it's another when you get more personally involved and feel that you have a stake in the review.

For those of you who think this is unfair, you're probably right. I also don't want to start the long-standing debate on this subject again, because there is nothing to be gained from it (the reviews won't change). But I do think the above should be mentioned and acknowledged.

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macimay (29 posts) Click to send private message to macimay Click to check IP address of the poster
17-Apr-01, 11:08 AM (PDT)
14. "RE: Are you the client hot or not?..."
Maybe if the rating system were used include clients reviewing themselves with an attached photo, that would bring a better standard of reviewing and more credibility to the board.
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FreeWillyDave (336 posts) Click to send private message to FreeWillyDave Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
17-Apr-01, 11:47 AM (PDT)
15. "deja vu"
there was a long thread on this topic and why it would never be feasible a short while ago in the regular message board...
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march26 (38 posts) Click to send private message to march26 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
17-Apr-01, 11:56 AM (PDT)
16. "maybe RB should archive"
past threads by topic. i know that may be a lot of work, but it would nice to have a list or table of contents and see what has been discussed before. that would reduce the # redundant threads.
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macimay (29 posts) Click to send private message to macimay Click to check IP address of the poster
17-Apr-01, 01:11 PM (PDT)
18. "RE: maybe RB should archive"
So one one hand we have the whinners complaining that their ATF is MIA, then there are the "we can't do shit about it anyway boys" which is really the cover for "we want fresh meat crowd and this is how we let LE make it happen for us"
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FreeWillyDave (336 posts) Click to send private message to FreeWillyDave Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
17-Apr-01, 02:25 PM (PDT)
19. "wha?"
Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say in this post. Could you please clarify?
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